Whereas showing on Dumb Blonde podcast Monday, Cavallari shared that her ex-husband has introduced “zero f–king consistency” to their dynamic, including that their co-parenting relationship has been “so up and down.”

“[It’s] actually arduous. It has not been straightforward to say the least,” the previous Hills star admitted.

Describing a single optimistic second of their “bumpy highway” to date, Cavallari advised podcast host, Bunnie XO, that she and the previous NFL star have been in a position to sit collectively at their son’s basketball recreation earlier this 12 months with out battle.

“We sat collectively at a basketball recreation earlier within the 12 months, and I used to be like, ‘Holy f–k, that is the most effective factor that is ever occurred. Jesus Christ, we made it. We will sit subsequent to one another,’” Cavallari recalled. “And we have not sat collectively since, so I do not f–king know. What the f–k?”

Based mostly on how issues have been going for the pair, Cavallari predicted that she and the retired athlete would not spend holidays along with their three children sooner or later.

She mentioned that without having a “household unit” throughout Christmas “bums [her] out generally,” she doesn’t need Cutler again.

“Coming from divorced mother and father, the very last thing I ever needed was a divorce. I will not deceive you,” Cavallari, who shares Camden, 12, Jaxon, 10, and Saylor, 9, with Cutler, defined. “That also will creep up occasionally. … It simply sucks that we’re not collectively as a household.”

The Let’s Be Sincere podcast host, who was married to Cutler from 2013 to 2020, has moved on because the pair’s break up, and has been romantically linked to nation singer Morgan Wallen and TikTok star, Mark Estes, from whom she break up earlier this 12 months.

Cutler, in the meantime, has moved on with fiancée Samantha Robertson.

Whereas the Unusual James founder mentioned she needed to be “actually cautious” speaking about her ex as a result of they share youngsters — and even “made a vow that [she] was accomplished speaking about him” — she did tackle their breakup throughout Monday’s episode.

“I do not remorse a rattling factor,” she mentioned of their “poisonous” romance.

“There may be a lot good that got here out of our relationship,” Cavallari added earlier than evaluating her ex to her personal “narcissistic” father, noting that she was “repeating a sample with [her] dad” when she started courting Cutler.

“That is what you do. I ended up marrying my dad,” she mentioned.

Elsewhere within the episode, Cavallari referred to as Cutler a “pathological liar” whereas addressing years-long rumors that he had an affair along with her former pal and Very Cavallari co-star Kelly Henderson.

“I actually do not suppose something occurred,” she mentioned earlier than clarifying, “F–k, I do not know to be sincere with you. Do I do know for certain? No.”

“Jay used to trash her which I now form of suppose if a man is trashing a lady, there’s in all probability one thing occurring,” the Laguna Seaside alum continued. “Once you’re coping with a pathological liar, it is arduous to know what the f–king fact is.”

“There are issues from my marriage that I’ll by no means know, and I’ve simply form of needed to let that go,” she added. “I am over it now.”

Cavallari additionally claimed “she by no means did [get an apology] and by no means will” from her ex however “can have empathy and forgive” with out having Cutler in her life.

“People who find themselves mendacity to you or are dishonest, that is as a result of they’re damage,” she mentioned. “That is about them. That has nothing to do with me.”

TooFab has reached out to Cutler’s reps for remark.